?taip, plazmas irgi uzdraus ir persekios tuos, kas jas turi namuose. "skaitytojas" <arunasz@nospamtakas.lt> wrote in message news:ihjv3n$ik7$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > O zekit neteko girdeti, kokios ten menamos problemos vyrams susijusios su > grindiniu sildymu? Cia man paporino vienas zmogelis apie tai, kad buktai > Vokietijoje del sveikatos problemu griauna ta grindini sildyma ir perdaro > i radiatorini. Man panasu i eilini mita, bet butu idomu bent paskaityt sia > tema. > > > "ttk" <ttk@netikras.lt> wrote in message > news:ihhb1r$gfp$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >> Kazkodel daugiausiai grindinis sildymas naudojamas Svedijoje, Danijoje, >> Vokietijoje, nuo seno naudojamas Korejoje. >> Kada pagaliau jie supras kaip tai nesveika :) >> Mitai apie grindini sildyma: >> http://www.healthyheating.com/Radiant_Mythology/Radiant_Floor_Heating_Myths_.htm >> >> "auto" <xcxcxcx@xcxcxcxcxcxcshd.lt> wrote in message >> news:ihf1r8$u0n$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>> taip. >>> >>> "tomasz" <nera@mailo.lt> wrote in message >>> news:iheui3$r7s$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>a tu tikrai galvoji, kad sildomos grindya blogai? >>>> >>>> t. >>>> >>>> "auto" <jghjghjsdfjl@sdhgjhgjfgkhdt.lt> wrote in message >>>> news:ihe1hk$5pr$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>> Maziau gulek ant savo sildomu grindu, ziurek, gal ir pasveiksi su >>>>> laiku >>>>> dar :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Liuc" <dedespalis_@_gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:ihd07t$jkm$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>> ?sveikatos negalavimai nuo grindinio sildymo. >>>>>> paskolinio varguolio problemos negresia, nes nama pasistaciau ne uz >>>>>> 300k. >>>>>> >>>>>> "auto" <xcxcxcx@xcxcxcxcxcxcshd.lt> wrote in message >>>>>> news:ihctpg$i2t$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>> Tame linke pasiklausyk apie "paskolini varguoli". O siaip kas tau >>>>>>> yra, >>>>>>> kad vis klaustukus dedi pries ka rasydamas? Cia liga ar kokia >>>>>>> depresijos forma? :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Liuc" <dedespalis_@_gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:ihcrlj$g3d$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>> ?http://www.zebra.lt/lt/video/s.poska-apie-varguolius.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Linas Petkevičius" <linas@NONONOglservices.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:ihcn03$bvv$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>> O patikslinkit - varguoliu tai cia kaip - blogai but? Tipo kaip >>>>>>>>> pideru, zydu be kojos ar blogiau? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Liuc" wrote in message news:ihcmfv$bfu$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ?varguoliu, ne ubagu. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "auto" <jghjghjsdfjl@sdhgjhgjfgkhdt.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:ihc566$q2i$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>> Tu cia pirmasis mane ubagu isvadinai, todel ir paaiskinau, kad tu >>>>>>>>>> esi ubagas, o ne as, nes tu pasiemei paskola, o as ne. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Liuc" <dedespalis_@_gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:ihbiel$t5u$2@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>> Ar as sakau, kad ne tegu? Tegu, jei patinka. Tik prie ko cia >>>>>>>>>>> pienburniai, banku paskolos ir ilgamete sildomu grindu patirtis? >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Atlepausis@wrk wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bet tu, Liūtai, esi tikrs pikc Liūc :) >>>>>>>>>>>> Jei žmogui patink radiatoriai - tegu! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. Aš irgi už protingą grindinį šildymą visur. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2011.01.21 00:09, Liuc wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> > ?esi totalus trolis ir varguolis. varguolis su menama >>>>>>>>>>>> > patirtim. >>>>>>>>>>>> > tau >>>>>>>>>>>> > ir internete visi pienburniai. kur spjausi, ten pienburnis. >>>>>>>>>>>> > kol >>>>>>>>>>>> > as >>>>>>>>>>>> > pampersuose gulejau (beje, pampersu tais laikais nebuvo), tu >>>>>>>>>>>> > jau >>>>>>>>>>>> > santechninius raktus kolegom padavinejai, nes tuo metu apie >>>>>>>>>>>> > sildomas >>>>>>>>>>>> > grindis dar nieks ir girdejes nebuvo. >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > dar karta - gero snargliavimo ir nuozmaus taupymo. varguolio >>>>>>>>>>>> > namas >>>>>>>>>>>> > is santaupu pastatytas per 20 metu - tikra svajone. matos >>>>>>>>>>>> > sistema >>>>>>>>>>>> > perkandes, pavarysi, viskas bus gerai. sutaupysi, pastatysi, >>>>>>>>>>>> > bankas >>>>>>>>>>>> > neismes, viskas bus gerai. belieka tik issiaskint kas tas >>>>>>>>>>>> > rtl'as. >>>>>>>>>>>> > tuo metu, kai as pampersuose gulejau kazkaip sito daikto >>>>>>>>>>>> > nepavyko >>>>>>>>>>>> > sutikt, na nieko dar yra laiko kol taupysi. >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >"auto" <asasag@eaasashd.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> > news:ihaaa9$102$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> > > As nuo taves skiriuosi tuo, kad tu pasiemei paskola >>>>>>>>>>>> > > daugeliui >>>>>>>>>>>> > > metu (o gal net visai neissimokesi ir ismes kaip suni i >>>>>>>>>>>> > > gatve), o >>>>>>>>>>>> > > as statausi is santaupu. O sildomu grindu esu daugiau uz >>>>>>>>>>>> > > tave >>>>>>>>>>>> > > mates, kai tu dar pampersuose gulejai :) >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>"Liuc" <dedespalis_@_gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> > > news:iha83h$um4$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > ?aciu, kad gavau leidima is ne pienburnio. o tamsta >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > nujauciu >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > shudburnis busite, toks gudruolis, besiklausantis bobuciu >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > pasaku, ir bandantis is pigaus shudo sulipdyt >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > ultramodernia >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > "pasidaryk pats" sistema, nes normaliems sprendimams su >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > atskirais konturais babkiu pritruko? ir aplink vien nieko >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > nesuprantantys pienburniai. >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > sveikatos problema, tu. teke pabuvot ant tvarkingai >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > irengtu >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > sildomu grindu? ar tik po auksciausiu lygiu atlikto >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > euroremonto >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > pavaiksciot ant elektra sildomu grindu, ikaitusiu iki >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > +40C? >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > gero sildymo sistemos lipdymo, ir sveikatos zinoma! juk >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > iki >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > 60 >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > laipsniu ikaite radiatoriai - tikras sveikatos saltinis! >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>"auto" <fdgfdg@fdfgdfgdghd.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > news:iha1rc$o9a$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > Gali dziaugtis, kol esi pienburnis ir nevertini >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > sveikatos >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > savo, kai busi vyresnis, kai prasides sveikatos >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > problemos - >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > pradesi tada galvoti kas ir kodel. >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>"Liuc" <dedespalis_@_gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > news:ih9vpm$m33$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > ?taip, neperkalbinesiu, sveikata visai sugedo nuo to >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > grindinio sildymo. o kur kylancios, ir nosi >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > uzkimsancios >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > dulkes, nemiga del kaistancios lovos, smirdanti >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > danga. >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > kaimynas va praeitais metais numire, pas ji irgi toks >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > sildymas buvo... pzdc vienzo... uzdraust! >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>"auto" <dfdfgdfgjl@dfgdfgkhdt.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > news:ih9k31$a2r$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > Inertiskumas, grindu danga, sveikata. Esminiai >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > dalykai >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > del kuriu nenoriu, perkalbeti gali nebandyti, koki >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > turi >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > toki ir turek ta savo sildyma :) >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>"Liuc" <dedespalis_@_gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > news:ih9hud$73o$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > keista, matyt praleidau. trukumu apart >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > inertiskumo >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > irgi >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > nematau. ypac >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > naudojant kondesacinius katilus... >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > -- >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > auto wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > Del grindinio sildymo trukumu. Siaip atsibodusi >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > tema >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > kas geriau radiatoriai ar grindinis, po ilgo >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > svarstymo as renkuosi radiatorius :) >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"Liuc" <dedespalis_@_gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > news:ih9f6v$2i1$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> O galima suzinoti kodel negali buti visur grindinis >>>>>>>>>>>> sildymas? >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> auto wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > Galvoju naujame name statyti visur radiatorius, tik >>>>>>>>>>>> vonioje ir >>>>>>>>> > virtuveje, grindini sildyma. Tai galvoju >>>>>>>>>>>> ar >>>>>>>>>>>> tam reiks atskiro >>>>>>>>> > kolektoriaus ar nebutina? Kaip >>>>>>>>>>>> galeciau >>>>>>>>>>>> reguliuoti srauta per >>>>>>>>> > grindis? naudoti kazkokius >>>>>>>>>>>> rtl'us >>>>>>>>>>>> ar koki velnia? >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >>