Tema: Re: Stai toks turi buti tikras filmas apie kara
Autorius: Toxis@ze_yvil_place
Data: 2010-12-03 14:35:57
"Nero" <arturasr_NEREIKIA_@eircom.net> wrote in message news:idank8$jlr$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
> nebeisprovokuosi manes, tik su situo tai parjuokinai - tu dar linkus i kokio
> vaiku darzelio psl gal idek ;-))))
> http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_killed_more_people_Stalin_Hitler_or_Pol_Pot
> cia galiu ir as dabar dar viena komentara darasyt - nori???
pabandyk, pazhiurek kiek ishsilaikys, ash rimtai sakau.
> o antram saltinyje tai isvis apsiskaiciavai arba skaityt nemoki
> "Stalin is responsible for the death of 17 million Russians, but only half a
> million were killed by his order."
> taigi be propagandos atvirai isdrysta sakyti - puse milijono.
>
> "Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) - 12,000,000 (concentration camps and
> civilians WWII)"
> atvirai parasyta - 12 milijonu
o vos vos zhemiau galva nuleisti buvo shiek tiek per sunku tamstai...
kaip ir atsakyt i likusius posto klausimus
Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 23,000,000 (the purges plus Ukraine's famine)
(Note: the crimes committed by right-wing dictators have always been easier to track down than the crimes against humanity committed by communist leaders, so the figures for communist leaders like Stalin and Mao increase almost yearly as new secret documents become available. To this day, the Chinese government has not yet disclosed how many people were executed by Mao's red guards during the Cultural Revolution and how many people were killed in Tibet during the Chinese invasion of 1950. We also don't know how many dissidents have been killed by order of Kim Il Sung in North Korea, although presumably many thousands).
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Main sources:
a.. Charny (1988) Genocide: A Critical Bibliographic Review
b.. Stephane Courtois: Black Book on Communism (1995)
c.. Matthews: Guiness Book of Records (2000)
d.. Clodfelter: Warfare and Armed Conflicts (1992)
e.. Elliot: Twentieth Century Book of the Dead (1972)
f.. Bouthoul : A List of the 366 Major Armed Conflicts of the period 1740-1974, Peace Research (1978)
g.. R.J. Rummel: Death by Government - Genocide and Mass Murder (1994)
h.. Matt White's website
i.. Several general textbooks of 20th century history
> p.s. autoritetingesnio psl neradai su tokiomis "ziniomis" ar ne? (bo gi
> nieks nepublikuotu viesai tokiu nesamoniu)
dar vis googlint neishmokom, specialiai bandzhiau parinkt, kad tik butu labiau koncentruota informacija, ir mazhiau vargintis skaityt, nes kaip supratau su tuo tamstai yra problemu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin#Calculating_the_number_of_victims