Tema: Re: Htpc, pamastymui -- vs pigus mITX AMD Socket (AM1) 25W TDP su Radeon R3 (GCN)
Autorius: markoh
Data: 2014-05-07 10:18:26
kol nera praktiskai kas isbandes, kate pirkt maise nera jokio noro, ir kainu 
prasme nematau ka cia galima labai islost,
o senas C2D patikrintas reikalas ir galvos neskaudes, kalbant apie 1080P 
streama



"MRT"  parašė naujienų news:lkb9nq$bd2$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...

> Griauciai nupirkti, (Small Form Factor) 
> http://www.dell.com/downloads/ap/products/optix/brochure_optix_755.pdf
> mintis pasidaryt htpc, pagrinde bus naudojamas udp iptv strymui, 1080p 
> ziurejimui, kartais lossless klausymui..

Kad jau nupirkti, tai kiek paveluotai:

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AMD naujienos arba pigus mITX komplektukas - Socket AM1 vs Silvermont vs 
S1150
Sent:   22 April 2014 10:47

AMD naujienos arba pigus mITX komplektukas:
93Lt - 
http://www.skytech.lt/am1i-msi-am1i-am1-ddr31600-sata3-hdmi-dvi-vga-mitx-p-185619.html
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/AM1I.html

115-138-176 Lt -
http://www.skytech.lt/procesoriai-stac-komp-procesoriai-desktop-cpu-c-86_85_182_584.html?f=s(),g(),p(2414),k(85.49,3229.00)&frag=&fragd=0&pav=0&sort=5a&sand=0%20sf-with-ul&grp=0%20sf-with-ul&pagesize=100&page=1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Accelerated_Processing_Unit_microprocessors#.22Kabini.22_.282014.2C_28_nm.29

mITX'as  uz 208/231/269 Lt ... jei $*/Lt yra ~3,2Lt .. 65$/72$/84$ .. jei 
~3Lt .. 69$/77$/90$

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[2014-04-10]

> Vakar užmečiau akį apie naujus AMD CPU, tai ten AMD tvirtina, kad jų
> sprendimas yra labai gerai vartant JPEG.  KAip ten praktiškai tai nežinau 
> kaip pamatuoti: 
> http://www.anandtech.com/show/7933/the-desktop-kabini-review-part-1-athlon-5350-am1/5

"Kabini" (2014, 28 nm)[edit]
Socket FS1b (AM1  platform)
2 to 4 CPU Cores (Jaguar (microarchitecture))
SoC with integrated memory,  PCIe, 2× USB 3.0, 6× USB 2.0, Gigabit 
Ethernet, and 2× SATA 6GB  controllers
GPU based  on GCN (Graphics Core Next) architecture

"Kaveri" (2014, 28  nm)[edit]
Socket FM2+,[12]  chipset support for PCIe 3.0
Two or four CPU cores  based on the  Steamroller microarchitecture
Three to  eight Compute Units (CUs) based on  the revised Graphics Core Next 
(GCN)  microarchitecture

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_(microarchitecture)
Improvements  over Bobcat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobcat_(microarchitecture)
"Kabini" Athlon 5350 /  Athlon 5150 / Sempron 3850 /  Sempron 2650 << 
Released:  April 9, 2014
Yra visokiu ten C-*0/E-350/E-450/E1-1*00/E2-**00 pakaitalas [?].

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The PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, were  revealed to both be
powered  by 8-core semi-custom Jaguar-derived APUs.

Jaguar CPU cores
AMD Radeon R3  graphics
AM1 socket  support

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Jau beveik norejau  rasyti, kad koks Athlon 5150 ar 5350 gal ir nieko butu..
Na bet jei jam su keturiais branduoliais kartais koks G465 pakrauna, o G2030 
nepavejamas, tai...
GPU related testukai rodo, kad R3 (HD 8400) kaip ir geriau uz IntelHD.
Siaura nisa turi.. pvz. jei CPU galios teigiu, kad G1820 daznai pakanka, o 
video irgi +/- ir to  IntelHD,
tai sitas  Athlon 5150/5350 butu konkurentas 
G1820_su_maziau_CPU_geriau_su_GPU.. HTPC?..

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Kai skaitai review nuo pabaigos link pradzios, tai taip ir gaunasi..

A socketed APU  is useless without a lineup of  APUs to swap in and out  of 
the aforementioned socket,
and that's exactly what AMD  is launching today. There are a total  of four 
AM1 APUs launching today:

Hmm.. jauciu AMD supyktu, bet .. siuo metu yra keturi gaidziai sitam 
lineup'e :D..
Sempron 2650  turetu but is esmes nesusipratimas.. lieka trys.. 36$ / 45$ / 
55$ ..
zingsnis 9$ = galingesnis CPU (1.3vs1.6Ghz) ir GPU (450vs600MHz)
zingsnis 10$ = galingesnis CPU (1.6vs2.05Ghz)

2014-04-23 Update:  Skytech kainos: 95Lt / 115Lt / 138Lt / 176Lt
94,49/31=3,05 .. 115/36=3,19 .. 138/45=3,07 .. 176/55=3,20 $*/Lt

Zingsniai: +20Lt / +23Lt / +38Lt


While  the APU costs are low, it's actually  the motherboard costs that are 
most  impressive.
AMD expects mini-ITX  and micro-ATX AM1 motherboards to retail for  between 
$25 - $35.
At the  low end of  the spectrum that means you  could be looking at a
fully  integrated desktop platform for less  than $60. Obviously you have to 
add  in the cost  of memory,
storage, PSU/chassis and heatsink/fan but we're  still dealing with an 
extremely  low cost solution.

G1820 "atitinka" 42$:
Siai dienai S1150  mITX nuo ~190 .. G1820 + ~125 .. sum: 315 Lt .. [? - 
106$ ]
mATX nuo ~124.. G1820 + ~125 .. sum: 249 Lt ...  [? - 84$ ]

vs. AMD - APU 31$/36$/45$/55$ + MB 25$-35$ ... Sum: less  than 60$ .. or up 
to 80-90$


******* 2014-04-23 Update *******

93Lt - 
http://www.skytech.lt/am1i-msi-am1i-am1-ddr31600-sata3-hdmi-dvi-vga-mitx-p-185619.html
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/AM1I.html

115-138-176 Lt -
http://www.skytech.lt/procesoriai-stac-komp-procesoriai-desktop-cpu-c-86_85_182_584.html?f=s(),g(),p(2414),k(85.49,3229.00)&frag=&fragd=0&pav=0&sort=5a&sand=0%20sf-with-ul&grp=0%20sf-with-ul&pagesize=100&page=1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Accelerated_Processing_Unit_microprocessors#.22Kabini.22_.282014.2C_28_nm.29

mITX'as  uz 208/231/269 Lt ... jei $*/Lt yra ~3,2Lt .. 65$/72$/84$ .. jei 
~3Lt .. 69$/77$/90$

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Atsakas is Intel (arba gal tiksliau AMD atsako Intel'iui) siems:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvermont

http://www.skytech.lt/pagrindines-plokstes-priedai-pagrindines-plokstes-c-86_85_826_248.html?f=s(),g(),p(139),k(86.99,1876.00)&frag=&fragd=0&pav=0&sort=5a&sand=0%20sf-with-ul&grp=0%20sf-with-ul&pagesize=100&page=1

http://www.skytech.lt/q1900bitx-asrock-q1900bitx-cpu-board-j1900-2xddr3-2xsata2-dsub-hdmi-miniitx-p-188319.html

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Q1900B-ITX/

http://www.skytech.lt/q1900m-asrock-q1900m-cpu-board-j1900-2xddr3-2xsata2-dsub-hdmi-dvid-matx-p-188320.html

http://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/Q1900M/index.asp

AMD privalumas, kad CPU/APU/SoC ar kaip ji ten nera ilituotas i MB.
Is kitos puses vargu ar i ta Socket (AM1) kazkokie labai galingesni CPU bus 
galimi.
kai MB+CPU naujas tevertas ~230Lt, tai labai esminio skirtumo nera ar tai 
dvi ar viena dalis.

Intel privalumas isliktu  mazesnis TDP ir ausintuvas netgi pasyvus.
Kolkas testu nemanau, kad pakankamai issamiu siems  zveriukams bus.
Cia gal toks  daugmaz klausimas del Intel_HD_4EU_(Ivy) ar Radeon_R3_128:8:4
Taip pat kyla pakankamai abejoniu ar ne geriau S1150+G1820.
Galbut komplektuojant  online veikianti "serveriuka"  sie "konkurentai" ir 
pranasesni.