tu matau vienas is tu, kurie pergyvena, kad nepastipo konclagery krosnyse ar duju kameroj. o del desovietizacijos - pradziai desovietizuok ozhi, gryba ir keuLina. Po to galesi pereit prie kitu zymiu sajudistu. "tomasz" wrote in message news:oevnes$ncb$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... dejau as ant ruso ir jo pergaliu, o gal manai, kad tureciau buti dekingas uz artimu zmoniu tremtis ir mirti? nieko gero kacapai Lietuvai neatnese ir matomai neatnes. 100 metu kaip is ju daro bydlo ir taip jiems reikia. kuo greiciau sugrius esamas mordoras ir ivyks desovietizacija, tuo geriau. -- t. "tikrasis sbalen" <netikekit@ne.lt> wrote in message news:oevk7u$ktv$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > "jeigu" istorijoje nera. > jeigu taip butu ivyke, is visu likusiu zydu butu isvires muiliukas, ir > dar visokiu negeru dalyku atsitike > uztat padorus zmones ir svencia pergale > tu nesi toks > > "tomasz" <nera@pasto.lt> ra?e news:oevjvt$knd$1@trimpas.omnitel.net: > >> nu nu... >> kvailasis naivume... >> jei ne adolfo kvailumas ir pindosu pagalba, i blyna butu sukociotas >> mordoras. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease >> >> Nikita Khrushchev, having served as a military commissar and >> intermediary between Stalin and his generals during the war, addressed >> directly the significance of Lend-lease aid in his memoirs: >> >> I would like to express my candid opinion about Stalin's views on >> whether the Red Army and the Soviet Union could have coped with Nazi >> Germany and survived the war without aid from the United States and >> Britain. First, I would like to tell about some remarks Stalin made >> and repeated several times when we were "discussing freely" among >> ourselves. He stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped >> us, we would not have won the war. If we had had to fight Nazi Germany >> one on one, we could not have stood up against Germany's pressure, and >> we would have lost the war. No one ever discussed this subject >> officially, and I don't think Stalin left any written evidence of his >> opinion, but I will state here that several times in conversations >> with me he noted that these were the actual circumstances. He never >> made a special point of holding a conversation on the subject, but >> when we were engaged in some kind of relaxed conversation, going over >> international questions of the past and present, and when we would >> return to the subject of the path we had traveled during the war, that >> is what he said. When I listened to his remarks, I was fully in >> agreement with him, and today I am even more so.[30] >> >> In a confidential interview with the wartime correspondent Konstantin >> Simonov, the famous Soviet Marshal G.K. Zhukov is quoted as saying: >> >> Today [1963] some say the Allies didn't really help us. But listen, >> one cannot deny that the Americans shipped over to us material without >> which we could not have equipped our armies held in reserve or been >> able to continue the war.[31] >> >> >