Tema: Re: Vel paklydeliai?
Autorius: tomasz
Data: 2017-07-30 17:04:40
http://www.litmir.me/bd/?b=107644
pasiskaitymui apie hartmana, na velikom i mogucem jazyke...

vatnykai svieskites, gal praeis noras surudijusiais grabais zvangint..

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t.
"Tomas" <info@drambliostraubliokrantas.gov> wrote in message 
news:oljvoe$rc6$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
> Ne naujiena. Ale nelabsas teige, kad raudonoji armija buvo labai nebloga 
> ir labai mokejo kariaut.
>
> "tomasz" <nera@pasto.lt> wrote in message 
> news:oliue8$4rh$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>> tiktais.....
>> lyginant su vokieciu asais, tai padanginis nabagu nabagas....
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Hartmann
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Schuck
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Rudorffer
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> t.
>> "Tomas" <info@drambliostraubliokrantas.gov> wrote in message
>> news:olisb9$3ed$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>A jau 59 victories? Priesh 30 metu buvo tik 58, kazhka dar nukale per ta
>>>laika.... Ar tik ne MH17....
>>>
>>> "tomasz" <nera@pasto.lt> wrote in message
>>> news:oling9$vid$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>> nx, ne nx, bet tiesa akis bado...
>>>> Pokryshkin scored 47 of his 59 victories in P-39s
>>>> ir jo, eik nx gintaso slapdesres paciupt.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>>
>>>> t.
>>>> "Audrys" <kokskienoreikalaskokiadeze@takas.lt> wrote in message
>>>> news:olhi52$5kg$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>> eik nax asile, klausimas pirmiausia buvo, kad skraide vien
>>>>> lendleasiniais.
>>>>> eik pablikauk i tvarta, kad skaityt nemoki.
>>>>>
>>>>> "tomasz"  wrote in message news:olhg1o$47g$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> nu, 41 ir 42 srotas, 43 ir dalis 44 kobra, tais paciais pabande la ir
>>>>> gryzo
>>>>> prie kobros, taip kad gudruoli, eik nx.
>>>>> pergaliu kiekis su kobra irgi daug ka pasako.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>>
>>>>> t.
>>>>> "Audrys" <kokskienoreikalaskokiadeze@takas.lt> wrote in message
>>>>> news:olgceu$b53$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>> kur jau ten tau buaki klumpei ka nors suprast .....
>>>>>> karas vyko nuo 41u
>>>>>> ir itin bukam kanopiniam gyvuliui kaip tu primenu, kad vienas is tavo
>>>>>> debilu teige, kad skraide VIEN TIK LENDLIZINIAIS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "tomasz"  wrote in message news:olgaqu$a2r$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ha ha prastai teksta suvoki gaidziau.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Finally, in 1944, he found an aircraft that he deemed a worthy heir:
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Lavochkin La-7. However, one of his close friends, Soviet 50-kill (31
>>>>>> personal and 19 group) ace Alexander Klubov, was killed in a landing
>>>>>> mishap
>>>>>> while converting to the La-7. The crash was blamed on the malfunction
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> plane's hydraulic system. Pokryshkin subsequently cancelled his
>>>>>> regiment's
>>>>>> conversion, and there are multiple reports that they instead began
>>>>>> flying
>>>>>> the Bell P-63 Kingcobra
>>>>>>
>>>>>> taip kad gaunasi, kad 2 metus skraide su rusisku lauzu, po to metus 
>>>>>> su
>>>>>> virsum su cobra, pabande lavockina ir vel sugryzo prie cobros.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> t.
>>>>>> "Audrys" <kokskienoreikalaskokiadeze@takas.lt> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:olg7ek$7nt$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>> Taip, nabageli ozhinis, skaitau.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Pokryshkin started the war flying the Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-3 
>>>>>>> fighter,
>>>>>>> in which he scored almost twenty victories."
>>>>>>> "In January 1943, his regiment converted to Lend-Lease Bell P-39
>>>>>>> Airacobras"
>>>>>>> "Finally, in 1944, he found an aircraft that he deemed a worthy 
>>>>>>> heir:
>>>>>>> the Lavochkin La-7"
>>>>>>> "Through the Lend-Lease agreement with United States, the Soviet 
>>>>>>> Union
>>>>>>> was not allowed to use P-63s against Germany; they were given only 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> used in the eventual battle with Japan." (oxujet ... tik vokieciu
>>>>>>> nemuskit :D )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Taip kad gaunasi metus (is 4 min) skraide lendliziniu, o jokiu budu 
>>>>>>> ne
>>>>>>> visada.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "tomasz"  wrote in message news:olg4hh$5f0$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ha ha ha
>>>>>>> In January 1943, his regiment converted to Lend-Lease Bell P-39
>>>>>>> Airacobras.
>>>>>>> Soviet pilots liked this aircraft, and found it quite competitive 
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Messerschmitt Bf-109 and superior to the Focke-Wulf FW-190 at the 
>>>>>>> low
>>>>>>> air
>>>>>>> combat altitudes common on the Eastern Front. Pokryshkin enjoyed the
>>>>>>> 37
>>>>>>> mm
>>>>>>> cannon's destructive firepower, as well as the two upper 
>>>>>>> nose-mounted
>>>>>>> .50
>>>>>>> caliber machine guns, synchronized to fire through the propellor
>>>>>>> (airscrew),
>>>>>>> in addition to the pair of .30 caliber machine guns mounted in each
>>>>>>> wing,
>>>>>>> outside the propeller arc and therefore unsynchronized. He claimed
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> cannon's trigger, positioned at the top of the joystick, was
>>>>>>> impossible
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> push without moving the pilot's hand, which made the aircraft 
>>>>>>> deviate
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> the gunsight, so finally he had his regiment's aircraft rigged so 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> single button simultaneously fired cannon and machine guns. In his
>>>>>>> memoirs
>>>>>>> he describes many enemy aircraft immediately disintegrating upon 
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> hit
>>>>>>> by a salvo. Pokryshkin and his regiment were repeatedly asked to
>>>>>>> convert
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> new Soviet fighters such as the La-5 and Yak-3. However, Pokryshkin
>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>> Yak-3's firepower insufficient, and personally disliked Yakovlev, so
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> squadron remained with the P-39's.
>>>>>>> Pokryshkin subsequently cancelled his regiment's conversion, and 
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> multiple reports that they instead began flying the Bell P-63
>>>>>>> Kingcobra.
>>>>>>> Through the Lend-Lease agreement with United States, the Soviet 
>>>>>>> Union
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> not allowed to use P-63s against Germany; they were given only to be
>>>>>>> used in
>>>>>>> the eventual battle with Japan. Thus it is quite understandable that
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> mention of this appears in any official records. However, personal
>>>>>>> accounts
>>>>>>> of German pilots and flak crewmen who encountered P-63s in the skies
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> Eastern Prussia as well as in the memoirs of one of the pilots in
>>>>>>> Pokryshkin's squadron. It is reported that 9th IAD was given
>>>>>>> approximately
>>>>>>> 36 P-63s but these were not used while the fighting was still in
>>>>>>> progress.[11]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tu bent skaitai ka postini nabage?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> t.
>>>>>>> "Audrys" <kokskienoreikalaskokiadeze@takas.lt> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:olf835$e9d$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Pokryshkin#Aircraft_flown_by_Pokryshkin
>>>>>>>> meluoji.  tvarteliniai visada meluoja
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Poltorak"  wrote in message 
>>>>>>>> news:olf597$bks$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "geroj saveckogo sojuza" Pokryskin skraide vien amerikoniskais
>>>>>>>> naikintuvais
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Kindziulis" <k@kinija.lt> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:olf08e$6cg$2@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>> nugalejo CCCP pilieciai, o ne "vien tik rusai"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tomas wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tu tuom tkriausiai nori pasakyt, kad didiji tevynes kara aukodami
>>>>>>>>>> savo
>>>>>>>>>> gyvybes laimejo visai ne rusai?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Gintas" <nesvarbu@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:oles42$301$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>> Ar tik tuom nenori pasakyk, kad Lietuvos kariuomeneje tarnauja
>>>>>>>>>>> isskirtinai grynaveisliai lietuviai?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "arunazz" <nera@nera.gov> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>>>>>>>>>>> news:olerms$2js$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>> zapad2017 netoli, o buriatai jau ten:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ydyduw7v
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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