na cia panasu i atveji, kai vienam "autoritetui" kazka suradus - visi kiti staiga netiketai suranda ta pati, vien tam kad kvailesni nepasirodytu. P.S. trolint nebandau. On 2014.02.28 21:29, eMJei wrote: > Trumpai, radau įdomios medžaigos (pateikiu tekstą žemiau, anglų kalba), > apie aklus testus iš grynai Pro srities - Švedijos radijo perėjimas prie > kitų standartų/kodekų. > > Esminis dalykas - 20.000 aklų testų ir 60 PRO ekspertų nesugebėjo > PASTEBĖTI techninio kodeko artefakto 1.5kHz dažnyje , kurį per 10 min > pastebėjo VIENINTELIS audiofilas, PIRMOJE perklausoje. > > KODĖL? > > Istorija: > > Most such tests, including this new CD vs. high-res comparison, are > performed not by disinterested experimenters on a quest for the truth > but by partisan hacks on a mission to discredit audiophiles. But blind > listening tests lead to the wrong conclusions even when the > experimenters’ motives are pure. A good example is the listening tests > conducted by Swedish Radio (analogous to the BBC) to decide whether one > of the low-bit-rate codecs under consideration by the European Broadcast > Union was good enough to replace FM broadcasting in Europe. > > Swedish Radio developed an elaborate listening methodology called > “double-blind, triple-stimulus, hidden-reference.” A “subject” > (listener) would hear three “objects” (musical presentations); > presentation A was always the unprocessed signal, with the listener > required to identify if presentation B or C had been processed through > the codec. > > The test involved 60 “expert” listeners spanning 20,000 evaluations over > a period of two years. Swedish Radio announced in 1991 that it had > narrowed the field to two codecs, and that “both codecs have now reached > a level of performance where they fulfill the EBU requirements for a > distribution codec.” In other words, Swedish Radio said the codec was > good enough to replace analog FM broadcasts in Europe. This decision was > based on data gathered during the 20,000 “double-blind, triple-stimulus, > hidden-reference” listening trials. (The listening-test methodology and > statistical analysis are documented in detail in “Subjective Assessments > on Low Bit-Rate Audio Codecs,” by C. Grewin and T. Rydén, published in > the proceedings of the 10th International Audio Engineering Society > Conference, “Images of Audio.”) > > After announcing its decision, Swedish Radio sent a tape of music > processed by the selected codec to the late Bart Locanthi, an > acknowledged expert in digital audio and chairman of an ad hoc committee > formed to independently evaluate low-bit rate codecs. Using the same > non-blind observational-listening techniques that audiophiles routinely > use to evaluate sound quality, Locanthi instantly identified an artifact > of the codec. After Locanthi informed Swedish Radio of the artifact (an > idle tone at 1.5kHz), listeners at Swedish Radio also instantly heard > the distortion. (Locanthi’s account of the episode is documented in an > audio recording played at workshop on low-bit-rate codecs at the 91st > AES convention.) > > How is it possible that a single listener, using non-blind observational > listening techniques, was able to discover—in less than ten minutes—a > distortion that escaped the scrutiny of 60 expert listeners, 20,000 > trials conducted over a two-year period, and elaborate “double-blind, > triple-stimulus, hidden-reference” methodology, and sophisticated > statistical analysis? > > The answer is that blind listening tests fundamentally distort the > listening process and are worthless in determining the audibility of a > certain phenomenon. > > Šaltinis: > http://www.avguide.com/forums/blind-listening-tests-are-flawed-editorial?page=1 >