nx kai reikia masina 5x kelt aukstyn zemyn vietoj to, kad ramiai palipt kelis laiptelius. On 2015.01.17 03:34, Igaliotinis wrote: > Ko nezinai ? as apie keltuvus kalbu, duobe tai isvis nx. > > "911" <911@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:m9c949$fj1$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >> nzn kas tas yra bet duobe garaze.. siais laikais.. pas save name... >> nu kodeku reik but, arba kokia signalizacija >> . >> "Igaliotinis" <spam@rlc.sm> wrote in message >> news:m9c43d$ee9$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>> nu buna, bet zirklinis arba 4 kolonu vistiek netoks patogus kaip dvieju >>> kolonu, ypac simetrinis. >>> >>> "911" <911@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:m9bol5$a1c$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>> nu tai va sitas vienintelis, bet buna atitinkamu keltuvu >>>> >>>> "Signalizacija" <signalizacija.master@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:m9boak$9t4$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>> Pvz vaziuokles suverzinejimas, >>>>> >>>>> On 2015.01.16 20:58, 911 wrote: >>>>>> kokie darbai duobej patogiau nei ant keltuvo? >>>>>> >>>>>> "Signalizacija" <signalizacija.master@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:m9bmpk$97i$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>> Duobe yra gerai. Yra darbu prie masinos kur ji patogiau. O ir garaza >>>>>>> sildo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2015.01.16 20:47, monaxas wrote: >>>>>>>> Ša. Keltuvas numatytas. Duobes nebus. >>>>>>>> Aukštis, taip - 4 m. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Nioka" <dainius_TRINTI@inbox.ru> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:m9bgb9$6m9$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>> Bet garazo aukstis keltuvui - 4m. Kur cia pigumas? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "tranzoo" <laisku@nera.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:m9b1ra$u4i$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>> del duobes garaze - keltuvas kainuoja pigiau. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> T >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Arj" <root@ibm.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:m9as89$p7s$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>> saip tai priesingai - nei vieno pranasumo muras pries karkasa >>>>>>>>>>> tokiu >>>>>>>>>>> atveju neturi. >>>>>>>>>>> pamatu karkasui uztenka elementaru, darbai irgi elementarus, >>>>>>>>>>> savikaina >>>>>>>>>>> mazesne gerokai, rezultatas itariu dziugintu labiau, panorejus >>>>>>>>>>> pakeitimu >>>>>>>>>>> perdaryt gerokai paprasciau, visus darbus pats be problemu gali >>>>>>>>>>> pasidaryti. >>>>>>>>>>> As pats statyciau karkasini, pamatus elementarius polinius, is >>>>>>>>>>> vidaus osb >>>>>>>>>>> (jei budzetine statyba), is isores siltinciau vata (~10cm) I >>>>>>>>>>> karkaso >>>>>>>>>>> tarpus, apdaila lentom (ar plastiku, jei budzetinis variantas), >>>>>>>>>>> stogas >>>>>>>>>>> pagal skoni, vartus pakeliamus. Jei daryti garaza su rusiu - >>>>>>>>>>> viskas >>>>>>>>>>> sudetingeja, pagrinde del to kad rusys dafiga $ suvalgys ir >>>>>>>>>>> jis is >>>>>>>>>>> principo kapilatlinis statinys. Nors, jei rusio bulvems >>>>>>>>>>> nereikia, >>>>>>>>>>> tai >>>>>>>>>>> garaze galima nedidele apziuros duobe issimuryti, kokia >>>>>>>>>>> 1.5x3x1m - >>>>>>>>>>> darbo >>>>>>>>>>> maziau gerokai, auto is apacios savarankiskai apziureti iseis, o >>>>>>>>>>> daugiau >>>>>>>>>>> ir nelabai jos reikia neuzsiimant zemes ukiu. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "sharkius" parase naujienu >>>>>>>>>>> news:m9al3l$jks$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> neivieno pranasumo pries mura tokia xujnia neturi... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >