Apie ka ir kalba On 2015.01.17 14:14, Igaliotinis wrote: > tada geriausia ir keltuvas ir vyno rusys! > > "Signalizacija" <signalizacija.master@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:m9d02t$kro$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >> nx kai reikia masina 5x kelt aukstyn zemyn vietoj to, kad ramiai >> palipt kelis laiptelius. >> >> On 2015.01.17 03:34, Igaliotinis wrote: >>> Ko nezinai ? as apie keltuvus kalbu, duobe tai isvis nx. >>> >>> "911" <911@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:m9c949$fj1$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>> nzn kas tas yra bet duobe garaze.. siais laikais.. pas save name... >>>> nu kodeku reik but, arba kokia signalizacija >>>> . >>>> "Igaliotinis" <spam@rlc.sm> wrote in message >>>> news:m9c43d$ee9$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>> nu buna, bet zirklinis arba 4 kolonu vistiek netoks patogus kaip >>>>> dvieju >>>>> kolonu, ypac simetrinis. >>>>> >>>>> "911" <911@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:m9bol5$a1c$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>> nu tai va sitas vienintelis, bet buna atitinkamu keltuvu >>>>>> >>>>>> "Signalizacija" <signalizacija.master@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:m9boak$9t4$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>> Pvz vaziuokles suverzinejimas, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2015.01.16 20:58, 911 wrote: >>>>>>>> kokie darbai duobej patogiau nei ant keltuvo? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Signalizacija" <signalizacija.master@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:m9bmpk$97i$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>> Duobe yra gerai. Yra darbu prie masinos kur ji patogiau. O ir >>>>>>>>> garaza >>>>>>>>> sildo >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2015.01.16 20:47, monaxas wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Ša. Keltuvas numatytas. Duobes nebus. >>>>>>>>>> Aukštis, taip - 4 m. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Nioka" <dainius_TRINTI@inbox.ru> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:m9bgb9$6m9$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>> Bet garazo aukstis keltuvui - 4m. Kur cia pigumas? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "tranzoo" <laisku@nera.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:m9b1ra$u4i$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> del duobes garaze - keltuvas kainuoja pigiau. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> T >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Arj" <root@ibm.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:m9as89$p7s$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>> saip tai priesingai - nei vieno pranasumo muras pries karkasa >>>>>>>>>>>>> tokiu >>>>>>>>>>>>> atveju neturi. >>>>>>>>>>>>> pamatu karkasui uztenka elementaru, darbai irgi elementarus, >>>>>>>>>>>>> savikaina >>>>>>>>>>>>> mazesne gerokai, rezultatas itariu dziugintu labiau, panorejus >>>>>>>>>>>>> pakeitimu >>>>>>>>>>>>> perdaryt gerokai paprasciau, visus darbus pats be problemu >>>>>>>>>>>>> gali >>>>>>>>>>>>> pasidaryti. >>>>>>>>>>>>> As pats statyciau karkasini, pamatus elementarius polinius, is >>>>>>>>>>>>> vidaus osb >>>>>>>>>>>>> (jei budzetine statyba), is isores siltinciau vata (~10cm) I >>>>>>>>>>>>> karkaso >>>>>>>>>>>>> tarpus, apdaila lentom (ar plastiku, jei budzetinis >>>>>>>>>>>>> variantas), >>>>>>>>>>>>> stogas >>>>>>>>>>>>> pagal skoni, vartus pakeliamus. Jei daryti garaza su rusiu - >>>>>>>>>>>>> viskas >>>>>>>>>>>>> sudetingeja, pagrinde del to kad rusys dafiga $ suvalgys ir >>>>>>>>>>>>> jis is >>>>>>>>>>>>> principo kapilatlinis statinys. Nors, jei rusio bulvems >>>>>>>>>>>>> nereikia, >>>>>>>>>>>>> tai >>>>>>>>>>>>> garaze galima nedidele apziuros duobe issimuryti, kokia >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.5x3x1m - >>>>>>>>>>>>> darbo >>>>>>>>>>>>> maziau gerokai, auto is apacios savarankiskai apziureti >>>>>>>>>>>>> iseis, o >>>>>>>>>>>>> daugiau >>>>>>>>>>>>> ir nelabai jos reikia neuzsiimant zemes ukiu. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "sharkius" parase naujienu >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:m9al3l$jks$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> neivieno pranasumo pries mura tokia xujnia neturi... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >