ir jokio sildymo. jei suhali, ilipi rusin ir sushyli. zemej ir taip silta, o dar jei ten koks monikutes kaprizas lentynose gyvena tai visai karsta gali pasidaryt. "Signalizacija" <signalizacija.master@gmail.com> wrote in message news:m9gpa7$qh7$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > Apie ka ir kalba > > On 2015.01.17 14:14, Igaliotinis wrote: >> tada geriausia ir keltuvas ir vyno rusys! >> >> "Signalizacija" <signalizacija.master@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:m9d02t$kro$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>> nx kai reikia masina 5x kelt aukstyn zemyn vietoj to, kad ramiai >>> palipt kelis laiptelius. >>> >>> On 2015.01.17 03:34, Igaliotinis wrote: >>>> Ko nezinai ? as apie keltuvus kalbu, duobe tai isvis nx. >>>> >>>> "911" <911@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:m9c949$fj1$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>> nzn kas tas yra bet duobe garaze.. siais laikais.. pas save name... >>>>> nu kodeku reik but, arba kokia signalizacija >>>>> . >>>>> "Igaliotinis" <spam@rlc.sm> wrote in message >>>>> news:m9c43d$ee9$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>> nu buna, bet zirklinis arba 4 kolonu vistiek netoks patogus kaip >>>>>> dvieju >>>>>> kolonu, ypac simetrinis. >>>>>> >>>>>> "911" <911@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:m9bol5$a1c$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>> nu tai va sitas vienintelis, bet buna atitinkamu keltuvu >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Signalizacija" <signalizacija.master@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:m9boak$9t4$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>> Pvz vaziuokles suverzinejimas, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2015.01.16 20:58, 911 wrote: >>>>>>>>> kokie darbai duobej patogiau nei ant keltuvo? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Signalizacija" <signalizacija.master@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:m9bmpk$97i$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>> Duobe yra gerai. Yra darbu prie masinos kur ji patogiau. O ir >>>>>>>>>> garaza >>>>>>>>>> sildo >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2015.01.16 20:47, monaxas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Ša. Keltuvas numatytas. Duobes nebus. >>>>>>>>>>> Aukštis, taip - 4 m. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Nioka" <dainius_TRINTI@inbox.ru> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:m9bgb9$6m9$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> Bet garazo aukstis keltuvui - 4m. Kur cia pigumas? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "tranzoo" <laisku@nera.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:m9b1ra$u4i$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>> del duobes garaze - keltuvas kainuoja pigiau. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> T >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Arj" <root@ibm.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:m9as89$p7s$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> saip tai priesingai - nei vieno pranasumo muras pries karkasa >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tokiu >>>>>>>>>>>>>> atveju neturi. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pamatu karkasui uztenka elementaru, darbai irgi elementarus, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> savikaina >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mazesne gerokai, rezultatas itariu dziugintu labiau, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> panorejus >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pakeitimu >>>>>>>>>>>>>> perdaryt gerokai paprasciau, visus darbus pats be problemu >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gali >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pasidaryti. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As pats statyciau karkasini, pamatus elementarius polinius, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> vidaus osb >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (jei budzetine statyba), is isores siltinciau vata (~10cm) I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> karkaso >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tarpus, apdaila lentom (ar plastiku, jei budzetinis >>>>>>>>>>>>>> variantas), >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stogas >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pagal skoni, vartus pakeliamus. Jei daryti garaza su rusiu - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> viskas >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sudetingeja, pagrinde del to kad rusys dafiga $ suvalgys ir >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jis is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> principo kapilatlinis statinys. Nors, jei rusio bulvems >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nereikia, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tai >>>>>>>>>>>>>> garaze galima nedidele apziuros duobe issimuryti, kokia >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.5x3x1m - >>>>>>>>>>>>>> darbo >>>>>>>>>>>>>> maziau gerokai, auto is apacios savarankiskai apziureti >>>>>>>>>>>>>> iseis, o >>>>>>>>>>>>>> daugiau >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ir nelabai jos reikia neuzsiimant zemes ukiu. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "sharkius" parase naujienu >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:m9al3l$jks$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> neivieno pranasumo pries mura tokia xujnia neturi... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >