tada geriausia ir keltuvas ir vyno rusys! "Signalizacija" <signalizacija.master@gmail.com> wrote in message news:m9d02t$kro$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > nx kai reikia masina 5x kelt aukstyn zemyn vietoj to, kad ramiai palipt > kelis laiptelius. > > On 2015.01.17 03:34, Igaliotinis wrote: >> Ko nezinai ? as apie keltuvus kalbu, duobe tai isvis nx. >> >> "911" <911@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:m9c949$fj1$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>> nzn kas tas yra bet duobe garaze.. siais laikais.. pas save name... >>> nu kodeku reik but, arba kokia signalizacija >>> . >>> "Igaliotinis" <spam@rlc.sm> wrote in message >>> news:m9c43d$ee9$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>> nu buna, bet zirklinis arba 4 kolonu vistiek netoks patogus kaip dvieju >>>> kolonu, ypac simetrinis. >>>> >>>> "911" <911@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:m9bol5$a1c$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>> nu tai va sitas vienintelis, bet buna atitinkamu keltuvu >>>>> >>>>> "Signalizacija" <signalizacija.master@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:m9boak$9t4$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>> Pvz vaziuokles suverzinejimas, >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2015.01.16 20:58, 911 wrote: >>>>>>> kokie darbai duobej patogiau nei ant keltuvo? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Signalizacija" <signalizacija.master@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:m9bmpk$97i$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>> Duobe yra gerai. Yra darbu prie masinos kur ji patogiau. O ir >>>>>>>> garaza >>>>>>>> sildo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2015.01.16 20:47, monaxas wrote: >>>>>>>>> Ša. Keltuvas numatytas. Duobes nebus. >>>>>>>>> Aukštis, taip - 4 m. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Nioka" <dainius_TRINTI@inbox.ru> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:m9bgb9$6m9$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>> Bet garazo aukstis keltuvui - 4m. Kur cia pigumas? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "tranzoo" <laisku@nera.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:m9b1ra$u4i$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>> del duobes garaze - keltuvas kainuoja pigiau. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> T >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Arj" <root@ibm.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:m9as89$p7s$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> saip tai priesingai - nei vieno pranasumo muras pries karkasa >>>>>>>>>>>> tokiu >>>>>>>>>>>> atveju neturi. >>>>>>>>>>>> pamatu karkasui uztenka elementaru, darbai irgi elementarus, >>>>>>>>>>>> savikaina >>>>>>>>>>>> mazesne gerokai, rezultatas itariu dziugintu labiau, panorejus >>>>>>>>>>>> pakeitimu >>>>>>>>>>>> perdaryt gerokai paprasciau, visus darbus pats be problemu gali >>>>>>>>>>>> pasidaryti. >>>>>>>>>>>> As pats statyciau karkasini, pamatus elementarius polinius, is >>>>>>>>>>>> vidaus osb >>>>>>>>>>>> (jei budzetine statyba), is isores siltinciau vata (~10cm) I >>>>>>>>>>>> karkaso >>>>>>>>>>>> tarpus, apdaila lentom (ar plastiku, jei budzetinis variantas), >>>>>>>>>>>> stogas >>>>>>>>>>>> pagal skoni, vartus pakeliamus. Jei daryti garaza su rusiu - >>>>>>>>>>>> viskas >>>>>>>>>>>> sudetingeja, pagrinde del to kad rusys dafiga $ suvalgys ir >>>>>>>>>>>> jis is >>>>>>>>>>>> principo kapilatlinis statinys. Nors, jei rusio bulvems >>>>>>>>>>>> nereikia, >>>>>>>>>>>> tai >>>>>>>>>>>> garaze galima nedidele apziuros duobe issimuryti, kokia >>>>>>>>>>>> 1.5x3x1m - >>>>>>>>>>>> darbo >>>>>>>>>>>> maziau gerokai, auto is apacios savarankiskai apziureti iseis, >>>>>>>>>>>> o >>>>>>>>>>>> daugiau >>>>>>>>>>>> ir nelabai jos reikia neuzsiimant zemes ukiu. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "sharkius" parase naujienu >>>>>>>>>>>> news:m9al3l$jks$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> neivieno pranasumo pries mura tokia xujnia neturi... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >