o bet tachiau kartais nauji varikliai dirba garsiau nei tas E28... -- Dainius "svyt" <transportas@zebra.lt> wrote in message news:h5s0ih$qh9$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > tai kad jau e28 td pagal garsa nelabai atpazinsi dizeli, o ka kalbet apie > modernesnius. daugiau nei 4 cilindrai- jau vibracijos nera, tiksejimo > garsa isduoda mechaninio siurblio pluzeriai... Kuris bent jau salone net > e28 nelabai girdisi. > > -- > vyt/ /e 36 318 tds caravan. > > > "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:h5r6ga$fln$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >> tai gal galima pragraduot tacha su indeksu? Nu panashiai kaip BMW dabar >> modelius zhymi - pvz 740i su I6 3.0 varikliu..... >> >> -- >> Dainius >> >> >> "Nerijus330Ci" <vk@keramika.lt> wrote in message >> news:h5r68u$f89$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>> vot su kaliega pilnai sutinku, kaip supercare atrodys tacahs su redlainu >>> nuo 4500rpm.:) >>> -- >>> BMW 330Ci M paket >>> "Arnas" <arnas@bbd.lt> wrote in message >>> news:h5r5l5$e9o$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>> taip dyzeliai ekonomishkesni, tuom neabejoju. Bet kas galima jupiteriui >>>> tas negalima jauchiui :) Jei y fura, traktoriu ar y Q7 galima det furos >>>> dyzeliny varikly tai jis tikrai nekaip atrodytu CL AMG merse :) beje ar >>>> ne del tos pachios priezhasties buvo atsisakyta dyzelines R8? manau >>>> tokiose mashinose norisi ne tik passatishko torko ar gero mileage'o. >>>> >>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:h5r4vr$d8s$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>> na, kadangi sakysi, kad iperkanchiam tokia mashina kuro sanaudos px, >>>>> tada pazhiurim kiek kuri mashina nuvazhiuoja su baku :). Pvz, XC90 T6 >>>>> tai uzhpisa su savo vazhiavimais i degaline kas 300km. Ytariu, V12 >>>>> biturbo gali ir tiek neishtempt :) >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dainius >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Arnas" <arnas@bbd.lt> wrote in message >>>>> news:h5r47c$c1r$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>> a, kosmosas. tai del to lyginam belekiek baru pripusta V12 tdy su V12 >>>>>> benzu atmosferiku :D >>>>>> >>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:h5r3to$bi3$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>> na bet CL65 AMG yra visishkas kosmosas, net lyginant su >>>>>>> V12tdi.....visomis prasmemis :) Kiek NM tures 760? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dainius >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Arnas" <arnas@bbd.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:h5r3c6$ap5$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>> atsipeikek dainiau gi kalbu apie V12 biturbo o ne atmosferika, >>>>>>>> kokie dar 630Nm ? :) ten jei neklystu ~1200nm bet limituojama ties >>>>>>>> 999 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:h5r2q3$9t4$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>> cia gal labiau, kad parodyt "o mes galim ir taip"? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> kita vertus, S63 AMG turi 630NM prie 5200rpm., Q7 V12 - 1000NM >>>>>>>>> prie 1750rpm. Su vidutinem kuro sanaudom 15ltr/100 vs 9.3ltr/100. >>>>>>>>> Kaip pazhiuresi.... :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Dainius >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Arnas" <arnas@bbd.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:h5r0il$727$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>> ash taip pat nesuprantu kam tie V12 tdy. Kad ant poros litru >>>>>>>>>> mieste mazhiau valgytu? Nes torko uzhtenka sochiai ir pas V12 >>>>>>>>>> biturbo benza, pas mb berods ribotuvas yra prie 1000Nm, tai kam >>>>>>>>>> tas traktorius reikalingas? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Nerijus330Ci" <vk@keramika.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:h5r0bv$6pc$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>> nu jo bmw neturi v12 tdi, bet siaip as ir nelabai suprantu >>>>>>>>>>> paskirties tokio dyzelio, nes nei vaziuoja jis taip kaip >>>>>>>>>>> vaziuotu toks bendzas, o ir ekonomiskumu nelabai pasizymi.:)Audi >>>>>>>>>>> uztai neturi v12 biturbo benzo.:) >>>>>>>>>>> O siaip tai sita diskusija neturi prasmes jeigu taip rimtai. >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> BMW 330Ci M paket >>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:h5qv9s$5m1$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> jei ta pati parashyciau Audi grupse sukeites vietom markes - >>>>>>>>>>>> butu tiek pat tiesios. Plius, kaip ir sakei, BMW ne visai Audi >>>>>>>>>>>> produkcijai turi ka prieshpastatyt >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Dainius >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Nerijus330Ci" <vk@keramika.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:h5qulv$521$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>> atsiprasau per kuria cia vieta vejasi BMW audine?, kiek >>>>>>>>>>>>> skaitau straipsniu (o skaitau tikrai daug) tai ilsisi audine >>>>>>>>>>>>> su dyzeliais pastoviai, nekalbu apie le mansus arba q7-tus su >>>>>>>>>>>>> V12Tdi, kur bmwas isviso negamina kazkokio analogo. >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> BMW 330Ci M paket >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:h5pu7b$ile$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nu. Vis vejasi ta Audi, vejasi.... :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dainius >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "ablasiejus" <as@as.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:h5ptja$i51$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.worldcarfans.com/109072220602/bmw-considers-diesel-engine-for-m-series >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >