Veto teise yra visiskas absurdas, ir tai galioja visoms salims turincioms ta teise. Tos 5 nuolatines nares vietoj Veto teises, galetu tureti nebent didesni balso svori, pvz 2:1 arba 3:1. Nes dabar atsiranda koks nors psichinis ligonis, su Veto teise, ir visa ta istaiga pavercia neigalia. Gintukai, ar labai noretum cheminio ginklo paragaut ? As - ne. Ir jei musu valdzia sugalvotu panaudoti chemini ginkla pries musu piliecius, as sutikciau kad USA pisteltu is raketu i tu ginklu sandelius. On 2018-04-17 08:33, Gintas wrote: > Zinant amerikiecius, stebina kam aplamai numatytas tas JT balsavimas su vetavimo galimybe. Juk galima det skersa ant visu balsavimu ir visu vetavimu? Galima netgi bombarduoti, o paskui aiskintis ar buvo priezastis tam bambardavimui. > > Pyst ir sumano bombarduoti visas valstybes, kuriu rezimai (valdymas) nepatinka (pvz. netinkamai riauses malsina, netinkamai ka nors i kalejima sodina, netinkamu maistu maitina ar ora uztersdami nuodija megapoliu gyventoju) Bombinam? > > > "Salas" <salas@inbox.lt> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:pb3vh6$gsp$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >> Rusu rezoliucija skambetu labai graziai, jei nepazinotum rusu, ir >> nezinotum kas is to isplaukia: >> >> Rusija siulo, kad visa tyrima kontraliuotu JT. Rusija turi Veto teise >> JT. Rusija jau blokavo >10 rezoliuciju susijusiu su sirija. >> Vos pabandzius JT suburti komisija cheminems atakoms tirti, ji vel >> vetuotu komisijos sudeti, del neva jai neitikusiu nariu. Temptu guma, >> kad Asadas spetu susitvarkyti ikalcius, ir net jei pavyktu suburti >> komisija ir ji pateiktu kokias nors nedaudingas Rusijai isvadas, ji jas >> vel paprasciausiai vetuotu, ir is viso to gautusi snipsta. Todel kitos >> salys, zvelgdomos i praeityje ivykdytus Rusijos veiksmus, atmete ju >> rezoliucija. >> Taip kad esme tame straipsnyje pateikta tiksliai, nors is rezoliuciju >> teksto to ir nesimato. >> >> >> >> >> On 2018-04-16 14:46, Audrys wrote: >>> o dabar pademonstruok is kur paimti tie pezalai apie rusijos nenora >>> paskelbt? Tavo tekstas yra is independent straipsnio, kuris nepateikia >>> jokiu nuorodu i tekstus. >>> >>> taciau jt tekste nieko panasaus nera >>> >>> "The Council then proceeded to vote on a competing draft submitted by >>> the Russian Federation, also rejecting it, by a recorded vote of 6 in >>> favour (Bolivia, China, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Kazakhstan, Russian >>> Federation) to 7 against (France, Netherlands, Peru, Poland, Sweden, >>> United Kingdom, United States), with 2 abstentions (Côte d’Ivoire, Kuwait). >>> >>> By the terms of that text, the Council would have established a United >>> Nations independent mechanism of investigation, also for an initial >>> period of one year, and urged it to fully ensure a truly impartial, >>> independent, professional and credible way to conduct its >>> investigation. It would have further directed the mechanism to make >>> full use of all credible, verified and corroborated evidence collected >>> by the OPCW fact-finding mission, while also directing it to collect and >>> examine additional information and sources not obtained or prepared by >>> the mission, including all information provided by the Government of >>> Syria and others on the activities of non-State actors." >>> >>> >>> "By the terms of a draft resolution submitted by the United States — >>> which was not adopted, following a vote of 12 in favour to 2 against >>> (Bolivia, Russian Federation) with 1 abstention (China), owing to a veto >>> by the Russian Federation — the Council would have established the >>> United Nations independent mechanism for an initial period of one year. >>> It would have requested the Secretary-General to make recommendations >>> about the mechanism including its terms of reference, based on the >>> principles of impartiality, independence and professionalism, to >>> identify those responsible for the use of chemical weapons in Syria. >>> >>> Condemning the use of such weapons in the strongest terms, the Council >>> would also have expressed full support for the Organisation for the >>> Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) fact-finding mission, which was >>> already investigating the Douma incident. It would have called on all >>> parties in Syria to fully cooperate with both investigations and allow >>> them immediate, unfettered, safe and secure access to all relevant >>> witnesses, evidence, reporting, materials and sites." >>> >>> >>> https://www.un.org/press/en/2018/sc13288.doc.htm >>> >>> Taigi kaip ir buvo mineta, amerikosiniam variante yra "Condemning the >>> use of such weapons in the strongest terms", kuria siekiama numanomos >>> atakos statusa pakeist i fakta nepateikiant jokiu irodymu. >>> Taip pat Salui: butent amerikosiniam variante yra " It would have >>> requested the Secretary-General to make recommendations about the >>> mechanism including its terms of reference", kuris independ'o >>> straipsnyje priskiriamas rusams. >>> >>> >>> "Salas" wrote in message news:pb20d3$tk8$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>> >>> Rusija noretu, kad nepriklausomu ekspertu isvados galetu butu >>> paskelbtos, tik tada, jei jas patvirtintu Rusija, t.y. 99% kad niekada :) >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2018-04-16 14:37, gediminas wrote: >>>> Tame linke tik teigiama, kad JT atmete rusijos pasiulyma. Bet taip ir >>>> neaiskus koks tas pasiulymas. Tai visgi ka ten tokio rusija siulo, kad >>>> JT nepritaria? >>>> Kiti siulo daryti nepriklausoma tyrima, kodel Rusija ji vetuoja? Ar >>>> netinka, kad bus nepriklausomas? >>>> >>>>> https://newsone.ua/news/politics/sovbez-oon-otklonil-rezolyuciyu-rossii-o-rassledovanii-ximicheskix-atak-v-sirii.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> specialiai kaip tau is ukru saito. >>>>> >>>>> "gediminas" wrote in message news:pb1og7$lu7$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>> >>>>> Koki varianta rusai siulo? >>>>> >>>>>> vetuoja ne tyrima, o amerikosu rezoliucija, kuriame dar pries tyrima >>>>>> suverciama kalte rusams ir patvirtinama numanoma ataka, kaip faktas. >>>>>> Rusai gi visa laika siulo ir kitoki varianta su tyrimu. >>>>>> >>>>>> "gediminas" wrote in message news:pb1kdv$hv0$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>> >>>>>> O kodel Rusija JT vetuoja cheminiu ataku tyrima Sirijoj? >>>>>> >>>>>>> o tai tipo, balsavimas JT turetu but toks, koki JAV nurodo? Tiek >>>>>>> JAV , tiek Rusija yra tu rezoliuciju blokavusi, tad kieno marionete >>>>>>> ta JT? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "vedarinis" <vedarai@kaip.gerai> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >>>>>>> news:pat9lr$anc$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>> Tam paciam straipsny parasyta, del ko JT yra tapus kacapyno >>>>>>>> marionete, jei ka. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Gintas" <apsaugok nuo Tomo durnumo@gmail.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>> ?Konvencij? pa?eidimas nesuteikia teis?s naudoti j?g??, ? sak? >>>>>>>>> pagalbos organizacijos ?Gydytojai be sien?? (MSF) teis?s klausim? >>>>>>>>> direktor? Francoise Saulnier. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- >>>>>>>> http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ >>>>>> >>>> >> >