A, stai kur beda..... Nesinori, kad JT kontroliuotu tyrima? Geriau, kad tyrima kontroliuotu JAV , kuri jau ir netirdama nusprende, kad rusai kalti :) "Salas" <salas@inbox.lt> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:pb41dh$igf$2@trimpas.omnitel.net... > Paaiskinu dar karta: > > Rusu rezoliucija skambetu labai graziai, jei nepazinotum rusu, ir > nezinotum kas is to isplaukia: > > Rusija siulo, kad visa tyrima kontraliuotu JT. Rusija turi Veto teise > JT. Rusija jau blokavo >10 rezoliuciju susijusiu su sirija. > Vos pabandzius JT suburti komisija cheminems atakoms tirti, ji vel > vetuotu komisijos sudeti, del neva jai neitikusiu nariu. Temptu guma, > kad Asadas spetu susitvarkyti ikalcius, ir net jei pavyktu suburti > komisija ir ji pateiktu kokias nors nedaudingas Rusijai isvadas, ji jas > vel paprasciausiai vetuotu, ir is viso to gautusi snipsta. Todel kitos > salys, zvelgdomos i praeityje ivykdytus Rusijos veiksmus, atmete ju > rezoliucija. > Taip kad esme tame straipsnyje pateikta tiksliai, nors is rezoliuciju > teksto to ir nesimato. > > > > On 2018-04-17 08:35, Gintas wrote: >> P.S. Nepaaiskinai , o kodel JAV, kartu su kitomis salimis, vetavo rusu rezoliucija? Kas joje negerai? >> >> >> >> "Salas" <salas@inbox.lt> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:pb3vh6$gsp$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>> Rusu rezoliucija skambetu labai graziai, jei nepazinotum rusu, ir >>> nezinotum kas is to isplaukia: >>> >>> Rusija siulo, kad visa tyrima kontraliuotu JT. Rusija turi Veto teise >>> JT. Rusija jau blokavo >10 rezoliuciju susijusiu su sirija. >>> Vos pabandzius JT suburti komisija cheminems atakoms tirti, ji vel >>> vetuotu komisijos sudeti, del neva jai neitikusiu nariu. Temptu guma, >>> kad Asadas spetu susitvarkyti ikalcius, ir net jei pavyktu suburti >>> komisija ir ji pateiktu kokias nors nedaudingas Rusijai isvadas, ji jas >>> vel paprasciausiai vetuotu, ir is viso to gautusi snipsta. Todel kitos >>> salys, zvelgdomos i praeityje ivykdytus Rusijos veiksmus, atmete ju >>> rezoliucija. >>> Taip kad esme tame straipsnyje pateikta tiksliai, nors is rezoliuciju >>> teksto to ir nesimato. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2018-04-16 14:46, Audrys wrote: >>>> o dabar pademonstruok is kur paimti tie pezalai apie rusijos nenora >>>> paskelbt? Tavo tekstas yra is independent straipsnio, kuris nepateikia >>>> jokiu nuorodu i tekstus. >>>> >>>> taciau jt tekste nieko panasaus nera >>>> >>>> "The Council then proceeded to vote on a competing draft submitted by >>>> the Russian Federation, also rejecting it, by a recorded vote of 6 in >>>> favour (Bolivia, China, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Kazakhstan, Russian >>>> Federation) to 7 against (France, Netherlands, Peru, Poland, Sweden, >>>> United Kingdom, United States), with 2 abstentions (Côte d’Ivoire, Kuwait). >>>> >>>> By the terms of that text, the Council would have established a United >>>> Nations independent mechanism of investigation, also for an initial >>>> period of one year, and urged it to fully ensure a truly impartial, >>>> independent, professional and credible way to conduct its >>>> investigation. It would have further directed the mechanism to make >>>> full use of all credible, verified and corroborated evidence collected >>>> by the OPCW fact-finding mission, while also directing it to collect and >>>> examine additional information and sources not obtained or prepared by >>>> the mission, including all information provided by the Government of >>>> Syria and others on the activities of non-State actors." >>>> >>>> >>>> "By the terms of a draft resolution submitted by the United States — >>>> which was not adopted, following a vote of 12 in favour to 2 against >>>> (Bolivia, Russian Federation) with 1 abstention (China), owing to a veto >>>> by the Russian Federation — the Council would have established the >>>> United Nations independent mechanism for an initial period of one year. >>>> It would have requested the Secretary-General to make recommendations >>>> about the mechanism including its terms of reference, based on the >>>> principles of impartiality, independence and professionalism, to >>>> identify those responsible for the use of chemical weapons in Syria. >>>> >>>> Condemning the use of such weapons in the strongest terms, the Council >>>> would also have expressed full support for the Organisation for the >>>> Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) fact-finding mission, which was >>>> already investigating the Douma incident. It would have called on all >>>> parties in Syria to fully cooperate with both investigations and allow >>>> them immediate, unfettered, safe and secure access to all relevant >>>> witnesses, evidence, reporting, materials and sites." >>>> >>>> >>>> https://www.un.org/press/en/2018/sc13288.doc.htm >>>> >>>> Taigi kaip ir buvo mineta, amerikosiniam variante yra "Condemning the >>>> use of such weapons in the strongest terms", kuria siekiama numanomos >>>> atakos statusa pakeist i fakta nepateikiant jokiu irodymu. >>>> Taip pat Salui: butent amerikosiniam variante yra " It would have >>>> requested the Secretary-General to make recommendations about the >>>> mechanism including its terms of reference", kuris independ'o >>>> straipsnyje priskiriamas rusams. >>>> >>>> >>>> "Salas" wrote in message news:pb20d3$tk8$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>> >>>> Rusija noretu, kad nepriklausomu ekspertu isvados galetu butu >>>> paskelbtos, tik tada, jei jas patvirtintu Rusija, t.y. 99% kad niekada :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2018-04-16 14:37, gediminas wrote: >>>>> Tame linke tik teigiama, kad JT atmete rusijos pasiulyma. Bet taip ir >>>>> neaiskus koks tas pasiulymas. Tai visgi ka ten tokio rusija siulo, kad >>>>> JT nepritaria? >>>>> Kiti siulo daryti nepriklausoma tyrima, kodel Rusija ji vetuoja? Ar >>>>> netinka, kad bus nepriklausomas? >>>>> >>>>>> https://newsone.ua/news/politics/sovbez-oon-otklonil-rezolyuciyu-rossii-o-rassledovanii-ximicheskix-atak-v-sirii.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> specialiai kaip tau is ukru saito. >>>>>> >>>>>> "gediminas" wrote in message news:pb1og7$lu7$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>> >>>>>> Koki varianta rusai siulo? >>>>>> >>>>>>> vetuoja ne tyrima, o amerikosu rezoliucija, kuriame dar pries tyrima >>>>>>> suverciama kalte rusams ir patvirtinama numanoma ataka, kaip faktas. >>>>>>> Rusai gi visa laika siulo ir kitoki varianta su tyrimu. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "gediminas" wrote in message news:pb1kdv$hv0$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> O kodel Rusija JT vetuoja cheminiu ataku tyrima Sirijoj? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> o tai tipo, balsavimas JT turetu but toks, koki JAV nurodo? Tiek >>>>>>>> JAV , tiek Rusija yra tu rezoliuciju blokavusi, tad kieno marionete >>>>>>>> ta JT? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "vedarinis" <vedarai@kaip.gerai> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >>>>>>>> news:pat9lr$anc$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>> Tam paciam straipsny parasyta, del ko JT yra tapus kacapyno >>>>>>>>> marionete, jei ka. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Gintas" <apsaugok nuo Tomo durnumo@gmail.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>> ?Konvencij? pa?eidimas nesuteikia teis?s naudoti j?g??, ? sak? >>>>>>>>>> pagalbos organizacijos ?Gydytojai be sien?? (MSF) teis?s klausim? >>>>>>>>>> direktor? Francoise Saulnier. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- >>>>>>>>> http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >