Vadinasi transcendental verchiasi trancendentinis, o Empiricism - transcendentalinis? Kai rimtai pozityvizmu domejausi ir apie Popperi rashinejau, tokiu nesamoniu nebuvo - chia kuris IDIOTAS ish LT filosofu tai sugalvojo? PS beje ash rashiau trenscendentinis (d mistypinau) versus empirnis - gal idemiau skaityti reikia? On 2010-08-24 14:54:54 +0300, Toxis@ze_yvil_place said: > Transcendentinis yra tavo apibrezhimas, uzh patyrimo ribu, anapus > patyrimo, metafizinis, transcendentalinis yra jo antipodas - t.y. > shiapus patyrimo ribu, kiek mano patyrimo ribos apema. T.y. > Transcendentalines logikos ribose galima postuluoti - visos moterys > turi krutis, matau bankoko kabake sutikau zhmogu su didelem krutim -> > tai moteris.. Ir chia mano transcendentaline logika prasiplechia, ir > del to keichiasi mano premisos - ne vien motery buna su krutim:) > > > > Transcendentaline logika ir yra empirine logika, kuri apima tiek ir tik > tiek, kiek asmeninis patyrimas. taigi tamstos pasiulymas paskaityti > empirinis vs transcendentalinis patyrimas yra na, nevalidus kaip > minimum. > > "smokas" <no@nop.nop> wrote in message news:i50ar9$jg6$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > > > Beje - ish tikro - gal apibrezk, kuo TRANSCENDENTINIS nuo > > > TRANSCENDENTALINIO skiriasi? - ir laiko sutaupysi ir protingas > > > pasirodysi :) - tiesiog skirtumus pavardink? e.g. > > > > > > 1. > > > 2. > > > 3. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2010-08-24 14:26:08 +0300, Toxis@ze_yvil_place said: > > > > > >> tai ish tikruju neskiri! ta ir norejau suzhinot.. kas idomiausia, kad > > >> pats kantas ir kategorishkai atskyre shias savokas:) > > >> > > >> "smokas" <no@nop.nop> wrote in message > news:i508te$g9k$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > > >> > > >> > Tartautini zodziu zodynas: > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > transcendentinis [lot. transcendens (kilm. transcendentis) - > > >> > > >> > peržengiantis] 1. filos. esantis anapus kokios nors sferos, anapus > > >> > > >> > pasaulio; neprieinamas patyrimui; I. Kanto filosofijoje - esantis už > > >> > > >> > sÄ > monÄs ir pažinimo ribų (âdaiktas pats savaimeâ); 2. mat. > > >> > > >> > transcendentus. > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > On 2010-08-24 13:56:41 +0300, Toxis@ze_yvil_place said: > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> >> http://www.filosofija.vu.lt/tekstai/kantas.htm#_Toc98261573 > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> na, mane tokios terminologijos ishmoke filosofijos fakas, jei tamstai > > >> > > >> >> zhinoma kazhkokia asmenine terminologija, deja nieko negaliu padet, ar > > >> > > >> >> mes tiesiog visgi nezhinom skirtumo tarp transcendentilines ir > > >> > > >> >> trenscendentines? > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> "smokas" <no@nop.nop> wrote in message > > >> news:i506ov$cng$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > Joo - ryte uzsimauname sock'us, apsivelkame jacket'a ir draiviname i > > >> > > >> >> worka :))) > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > Geresni buda, kaip pademonstruoti savo neishmanyma filosofijos > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > LIETUVISHKUOSE terminuose (transcendentalinis :))))) ir ergo > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > filosofijoje bei parodyti liumpenintelektualishkas zagres rankenas ish > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > kisheniu sunku buvo sugalvoti :) > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > On 2010-08-24 09:52:52 +0300, Toxis@ze_yvil_place said: > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> Empirinis~transcendentalinis pazhinimas (ar mes maishom > transcendentini > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> su transcendentaliniu?). > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> "smokas" <no@nop.nop> wrote in message > > >> > > >> >> news:i4ueqf$gc8$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> >> > Na gal tamsta paskaitykite empirinis vs transcendendinis > pazinimas, ir > >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> > paaishkes kodel agnostikai ateistus silpnaprochiais laiko :) >>> - maziau >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> ostapo benderio lygio ateistine propaganda su sovietinio meshlo >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> > kvapeliu reikes varineti :) >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> > >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> > On 2010-08-23 21:28:14 +0300, trickyvic said: >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> > >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> >> Ateistas automatiskai yra tas zmogus kuris netiki i >>> sugalvotus pasaku >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> >> herojus ? 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