Tai yra niuansu. Bet dyzelis prie 1700 rpm turi ten tuos 600nm, o benzinas lagina iki 2500rpm ir nevaziuoja, o poto pradeda kilti nm, bet jie nera ploksti.. "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message news:gvjs08$iss$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > chia abu turbavykai jau. Yra niuansu. > > "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:gvjrpa$ihl$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >> Nu ne astriau. 335i ir 335d, astriau pas 335d, nors aisku valyt silpniau. >> Standartai. >> >> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:gvjr6e$hnb$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>o bet taciau tavishkis toli grazhu ne standartas buvo. O benzas, bet >>>kuriuo atveju reaguos ashtriau nei dyzelis. >>> >>> "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:gvjqs8$ha4$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>> Jei imsi identiskas masinas, su panasiu svoriu. Ir paiimkime va, kad ir >>>> ta pati 330cd ir 330ci. Tai dyzelis sverdamas ten ~100kg daugiau ir >>>> turedamas 250aj ir 500nm geriau vaziuos uz benzina. >>>> >>>> Beje maniskio kerb weight buvo 1690kg, o nerijaus berods 1520 ar kazkas >>>> panasaus? >>>> >>>> Zodziu dyzelis yra savotiskai fun. Plius 6 cilindru dyzeliai labai >>>> maloniai be jokiu lagu reaguoja i vairuotojo komandas. >>>> >>>> "Arnas" <arnas@bbd.lt> wrote in message >>>> news:gvj1kn$98u$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>> ok, ash nieko nesuprantu. Tu man durnam paaishkink kodel e39 530d 193 >>>>> kw begejasi jau iki 100 lechiau nei e39 528i (193kw)? Pas dyzely 410Nm >>>>> pas benzina vargani 280Nm. Tavo beda kad tu imi viena ish priemoniu ir >>>>> akcentuoji tai kaip rezultata. NERA rezultatas nei Nm nei rpm. >>>>> Rezultatas yra galia. o galia ishvestinis dydis ish Nm ir rpm. Tu man >>>>> primeni mudakus dievinanchius crx'us (galvos daktaras ir pan idiotai). >>>>> Kurie klausia - O KIEK PAS TAVE MAX RPM? kiekk? 6500? o pas mane ble >>>>> 9000, reishkia pas mane geriau valit. Pasiskaityk daugiau apie AG, Nm >>>>> ir rpm - neatrodysi taip kvailai. >>>>> >>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>> news:gvj19h$8k7$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>> Nesupranti tu ir atrodo tau kad kiti durniai. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Arnas" <arnas@bbd.lt> wrote in message >>>>>> news:gvj057$6kn$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>> pas tave nera jokios idejos. tu net pats nesupranti ka parashei - >>>>>>> tas ir liudniausia. Idejes y lengva auto ir ishilgines begius tu >>>>>>> turesi tuos pachius jobanus 120 kilowatu, kurie valins panashiai >>>>>>> kaip tie patys 120kw ish pvz 2.8 atmosferiko. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ne, ne taip pat valins, nes jobanas 2.8 atmosferikas turi 250nm o ne >>>>>> 700nm. Veza tave sukimo momentas o arkliai tik isvestinis reikalas is >>>>>> sukimo momento. Ir jeigu idesi ilga deze tai 700nm ja ishsuks be >>>>>> problemu o apsukos tada bus nedaugiau 1500-3000rpm ir to pilnai >>>>>> uzteks. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:gvivmu$5qq$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>> ble tai gal skaitom tarp eiluciu, pati ideja, o ne tai kad butent >>>>>>>> tiksliai 120kw turi vaiperis....jklmn!!! lol :))) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Arnas" <arnas@bbd.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:gvivcj$596$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>> gausis vaiperis su 120kw ir 700Nm? sorry bet tu debilas. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:gviu2l$301$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>> Tai yra ir sunkvezimiai su 120kw ir 700nm ir tu juos su mopedu >>>>>>>>>> aplenksi. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Nu ir ka? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Idek i ji ilgus begius ir gausis Viperio istorija >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:gvitpg$2gf$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>> Juzefai, huinia tas torkas zhinok. Yra labai geras to pavyzdys >>>>>>>>>>> su VW Caddy, 55kW ir berods 215NM. Spek kokiam diapazone tie NM? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:gvitlt$29g$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> Hint1: mazesnis sukimo momentas i ratus = didesnis greitis >>>>>>>>>>>> (nereikia taip daznai jungti begiu) ! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hint2: kai Nm skiriasi 2.5karto tai 1.5x reduktorius neatstoja >>>>>>>>>>>> (ilgesni begiai = didesnis greiti islieka) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 0_o >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvitd2$1p1$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>> tai, kad i tavo interpretaciju vingius nelabai ir taikau.... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvit5h$1ci$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geriau parasyk ka TU rukai nes bandai kazka protingo pasakyti >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bet nu nihuja nepataikai. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvit4f$1ac$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blet, rimc. Parashyk ka rukai, ir ash noriu. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvisuf$ur$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>O vazineji visa laika tuo paciu vienu begiu? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zjb! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0_o >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvisnh$gf$2@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nu, tos pachios. Su 1.5x besiskirianchiu perdavimu.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvishs$vsd$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kokios dar transmisijos? tos pacios 5pavaru dezes? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvis9v$vcr$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nu jo, ant tiek nebuki. Bet iki trasmisijos dar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dasiprotet nepakanka..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvirtv$ulf$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeigu ji svertu tiek kiek masina tai ciulptu dar ir >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kaip. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bet tai ant kiek mes nebuki turbut ir ta suprantam? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gviqml$scj$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nu jo. Brytva su savo 100NM ishvis chiulpia.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gviq5s$rdt$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ji vaziuoja blogiau. Taskas. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvippi$qmp$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tai gal populiariai paaishkinsi, kodel troike su >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 180NM vazhiuoja neblogiau nei pasatas su 240NM? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvipe9$q2s$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kad nereikia kalti antros saibos norint koki kibira >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pirmoje juostoje aplenkti, o tik gazo duodi ir >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iskarto begejasi. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Siaip niutonai yra visa ko esme ir valinimas ir >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trauka (bendrai paemus), taigi kuo ju daugiau tuo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> geriau >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mindaugas" <seimas@dega.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvip9g$pp9$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Durnam man paaiskinkit, kur tu niutonu dziaugsmas? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kad penkta saiba is vietos pajudet gali ar kas? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvhbne$hea$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taip. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Na juk niekas ten nepageres kardinaliai su tokiu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> galingumo padidejimu. Tik va dyzeliai dziugina >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mieste poto, su savo nm. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Feniksas" <audriusTRINTI@TRINTIcablenet.lt> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvhb4v$gop$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is ~19% is 1.67L dyzelio...? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvhan5$ga5$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tai praktiskai nulis. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Feniksas" <audriusTRINTI@TRINTIcablenet.lt> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvhaej$g1a$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nu pvz 318 tds keliasi nuo 90AG iki ~110AG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perprogramuojant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "LabaiNeSpauda" <bimbam@samxam.lt> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvh91k$eg8$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pas dumu naxalishkai nelabai matosi, ta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prasme IMHO, kaip ir turetu buti. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O to nemachiau, bo aplenkt tai jam neishejo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bet kad gerai vazhiuoja tas tds tai tikrai. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvh7rh$d5u$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ar daug is jo dumu buvo? Nes sitas gerai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vaziuojantis, turi daug dumu duoti. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O taviski galima sureguliuoti, kad dumu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nebutu. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "LabaiNeSpauda" <bimbam@samxam.lt> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvh4uc$a5o$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kaliegos, a shyta 2,5 tds normaliai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turbinasi? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shiandien kazkokie 2 chiuvai su tds mane >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuo rumsishkiu persekiojo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tai man kazkaip skirtumas traukos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nepasirode didelis, todel susinervijau. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tai va galvoju ar mano viedras nevazhiuoja >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ar ten tas tds su vishniom. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >