Tema: Re: tds
Autorius: Dainiushas
Data: 2009-05-27 23:59:32
o tai tipo benzas trechia pavara prie 60km/h nuspaudus gaza tik burzgia bet 
negreiteja? :)

"Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:gvk8l4$38c$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
> Mintinai neatsimenu. bmw pamenu 3 pavara 2000-2200rpm ~60km/h tokia miesto 
> rezimo pavara, vaziuoji paspaudi jei reikia ir aplenki, 2 pavara ties 
> paciai rpm apie 40km/h irgi miesto rezimu naudojama budavo
>
> O jei taip jau rimtai nori galiu prie progos vw 2.0t su 2.0tdi abu dsg 
> palyginti.
> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:gvk870$2or$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>> koks buna greitis antra  (trechia ketvirta, kuria nori) pavara pas dyzeli 
>> prie 1700rpm ir pas benzina prie 2500rpm? :)
>>
>>
>> "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>> news:gvk60a$d0$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>> Tai yra niuansu. Bet dyzelis prie 1700 rpm turi ten tuos 600nm, o 
>>> benzinas lagina iki 2500rpm ir nevaziuoja, o poto pradeda kilti nm, bet 
>>> jie nera ploksti..
>>>
>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:gvjs08$iss$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>> chia abu turbavykai jau. Yra niuansu.
>>>>
>>>> "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>> news:gvjrpa$ihl$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>> Nu ne astriau. 335i ir 335d, astriau pas 335d, nors aisku valyt 
>>>>> silpniau. Standartai.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>> news:gvjr6e$hnb$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>o bet taciau tavishkis toli grazhu ne standartas buvo. O benzas, bet 
>>>>>>kuriuo atveju reaguos ashtriau nei dyzelis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:gvjqs8$ha4$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>> Jei imsi identiskas masinas, su panasiu svoriu. Ir paiimkime va, kad 
>>>>>>> ir ta pati 330cd ir 330ci. Tai dyzelis sverdamas ten ~100kg daugiau 
>>>>>>> ir turedamas 250aj ir 500nm geriau vaziuos uz benzina.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Beje maniskio kerb weight buvo 1690kg, o nerijaus berods 1520 ar 
>>>>>>> kazkas panasaus?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Zodziu dyzelis yra savotiskai fun. Plius 6 cilindru dyzeliai labai 
>>>>>>> maloniai be jokiu lagu reaguoja i vairuotojo komandas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Arnas" <arnas@bbd.lt> wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:gvj1kn$98u$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>> ok, ash nieko nesuprantu. Tu man durnam paaishkink kodel e39 530d 
>>>>>>>> 193 kw begejasi jau iki 100 lechiau nei e39 528i (193kw)? Pas 
>>>>>>>> dyzely 410Nm pas benzina vargani 280Nm. Tavo beda kad tu imi viena 
>>>>>>>> ish priemoniu ir akcentuoji tai kaip rezultata. NERA rezultatas nei 
>>>>>>>> Nm nei rpm. Rezultatas yra galia. o galia ishvestinis dydis ish Nm 
>>>>>>>> ir rpm. Tu man primeni mudakus dievinanchius crx'us (galvos 
>>>>>>>> daktaras ir pan idiotai). Kurie klausia - O KIEK PAS TAVE MAX RPM? 
>>>>>>>> kiekk? 6500? o pas mane ble 9000, reishkia pas mane geriau valit. 
>>>>>>>> Pasiskaityk daugiau apie AG, Nm ir rpm - neatrodysi taip kvailai.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>> news:gvj19h$8k7$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>> Nesupranti tu ir atrodo tau kad kiti durniai.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Arnas" <arnas@bbd.lt> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>> news:gvj057$6kn$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>> pas tave nera jokios idejos. tu net pats nesupranti ka parashei - 
>>>>>>>>>> tas ir liudniausia. Idejes y lengva auto ir ishilgines begius tu 
>>>>>>>>>> turesi tuos pachius jobanus 120 kilowatu, kurie valins panashiai 
>>>>>>>>>> kaip tie patys 120kw ish pvz 2.8 atmosferiko.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ne, ne taip pat  valins, nes jobanas 2.8 atmosferikas turi 250nm o 
>>>>>>>>> ne 700nm. Veza tave sukimo momentas o arkliai tik isvestinis 
>>>>>>>>> reikalas is sukimo momento. Ir jeigu idesi ilga deze tai 700nm ja 
>>>>>>>>> ishsuks be problemu o apsukos tada bus nedaugiau 1500-3000rpm ir 
>>>>>>>>> to pilnai uzteks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>> news:gvivmu$5qq$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>> ble tai gal skaitom tarp eiluciu, pati ideja, o ne tai kad 
>>>>>>>>>>> butent tiksliai 120kw turi vaiperis....jklmn!!! lol :)))
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Arnas" <arnas@bbd.lt> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvivcj$596$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>> gausis vaiperis su 120kw ir 700Nm? sorry bet tu debilas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gviu2l$301$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tai yra ir sunkvezimiai su 120kw ir 700nm ir tu juos su mopedu 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aplenksi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nu ir ka?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Idek i ji ilgus begius ir gausis Viperio istorija
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvitpg$2gf$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juzefai, huinia tas torkas zhinok. Yra labai geras to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pavyzdys su VW Caddy, 55kW ir berods 215NM. Spek kokiam 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diapazone tie NM?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvitlt$29g$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint1: mazesnis sukimo momentas i ratus = didesnis greitis 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (nereikia taip daznai jungti begiu) !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint2: kai Nm skiriasi 2.5karto tai 1.5x reduktorius 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neatstoja (ilgesni begiai = didesnis greiti islieka)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0_o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvitd2$1p1$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tai, kad i tavo interpretaciju vingius nelabai ir 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taikau....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvit5h$1ci$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geriau parasyk ka TU rukai nes bandai kazka protingo 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pasakyti bet nu nihuja nepataikai.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvit4f$1ac$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blet, rimc. Parashyk ka rukai, ir ash noriu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvisuf$ur$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>O vazineji visa laika tuo paciu vienu begiu?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zjb!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0_o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvisnh$gf$2@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nu, tos pachios. Su 1.5x besiskirianchiu perdavimu....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvishs$vsd$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kokios dar transmisijos? tos pacios 5pavaru dezes?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvis9v$vcr$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nu jo, ant tiek nebuki. Bet iki trasmisijos dar 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dasiprotet nepakanka.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvirtv$ulf$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeigu ji svertu tiek kiek masina tai ciulptu dar ir 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kaip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bet tai ant kiek mes nebuki turbut ir ta suprantam?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gviqml$scj$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nu jo. Brytva su savo 100NM ishvis chiulpia....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gviq5s$rdt$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ji vaziuoja blogiau. Taskas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvippi$qmp$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tai gal populiariai paaishkinsi, kodel troike su 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 180NM vazhiuoja neblogiau nei pasatas su 240NM?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvipe9$q2s$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kad nereikia kalti antros saibos norint koki 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kibira pirmoje juostoje aplenkti, o tik gazo 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> duodi ir iskarto begejasi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Siaip niutonai yra visa ko esme ir valinimas ir 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trauka (bendrai paemus), taigi kuo ju daugiau 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tuo geriau
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mindaugas" <seimas@dega.lt> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvip9g$pp9$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Durnam man paaiskinkit, kur tu niutonu 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dziaugsmas? Kad penkta saiba is vietos pajudet 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gali ar kas?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvhbne$hea$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Na juk niekas ten nepageres kardinaliai su 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tokiu galingumo padidejimu. Tik va dyzeliai 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dziugina mieste poto, su savo nm.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Feniksas" <audriusTRINTI@TRINTIcablenet.lt> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvhb4v$gop$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is ~19% is 1.67L dyzelio...?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvhan5$ga5$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tai praktiskai nulis.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Feniksas" <audriusTRINTI@TRINTIcablenet.lt> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvhaej$g1a$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nu pvz 318 tds keliasi nuo 90AG iki ~110AG 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perprogramuojant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "LabaiNeSpauda" <bimbam@samxam.lt> wrote in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvh91k$eg8$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pas dumu naxalishkai nelabai matosi, ta 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prasme IMHO, kaip ir turetu buti.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O to nemachiau, bo aplenkt tai jam 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neishejo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bet kad gerai vazhiuoja tas tds tai 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tikrai.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvh7rh$d5u$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ar daug is jo dumu buvo? Nes sitas gerai 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vaziuojantis, turi daug dumu duoti.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O taviski galima sureguliuoti, kad dumu 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nebutu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "LabaiNeSpauda" <bimbam@samxam.lt> wrote 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvh4uc$a5o$1@trimpas.omnitel.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kaliegos, a shyta 2,5 tds normaliai 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turbinasi?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shiandien kazkokie 2 chiuvai su tds mane 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuo rumsishkiu persekiojo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tai man kazkaip skirtumas traukos 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nepasirode didelis, todel susinervijau.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tai va galvoju ar mano viedras 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nevazhiuoja ar ten tas tds su vishniom.
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