koks buna greitis antra (trechia ketvirta, kuria nori) pavara pas dyzeli prie 1700rpm ir pas benzina prie 2500rpm? :) "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in message news:gvk60a$d0$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... > Tai yra niuansu. Bet dyzelis prie 1700 rpm turi ten tuos 600nm, o benzinas > lagina iki 2500rpm ir nevaziuoja, o poto pradeda kilti nm, bet jie nera > ploksti.. > > "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:gvjs08$iss$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >> chia abu turbavykai jau. Yra niuansu. >> >> "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:gvjrpa$ihl$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>> Nu ne astriau. 335i ir 335d, astriau pas 335d, nors aisku valyt >>> silpniau. Standartai. >>> >>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:gvjr6e$hnb$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>o bet taciau tavishkis toli grazhu ne standartas buvo. O benzas, bet >>>>kuriuo atveju reaguos ashtriau nei dyzelis. >>>> >>>> "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:gvjqs8$ha4$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>> Jei imsi identiskas masinas, su panasiu svoriu. Ir paiimkime va, kad >>>>> ir ta pati 330cd ir 330ci. Tai dyzelis sverdamas ten ~100kg daugiau ir >>>>> turedamas 250aj ir 500nm geriau vaziuos uz benzina. >>>>> >>>>> Beje maniskio kerb weight buvo 1690kg, o nerijaus berods 1520 ar >>>>> kazkas panasaus? >>>>> >>>>> Zodziu dyzelis yra savotiskai fun. Plius 6 cilindru dyzeliai labai >>>>> maloniai be jokiu lagu reaguoja i vairuotojo komandas. >>>>> >>>>> "Arnas" <arnas@bbd.lt> wrote in message >>>>> news:gvj1kn$98u$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>> ok, ash nieko nesuprantu. Tu man durnam paaishkink kodel e39 530d 193 >>>>>> kw begejasi jau iki 100 lechiau nei e39 528i (193kw)? Pas dyzely >>>>>> 410Nm pas benzina vargani 280Nm. Tavo beda kad tu imi viena ish >>>>>> priemoniu ir akcentuoji tai kaip rezultata. NERA rezultatas nei Nm >>>>>> nei rpm. Rezultatas yra galia. o galia ishvestinis dydis ish Nm ir >>>>>> rpm. Tu man primeni mudakus dievinanchius crx'us (galvos daktaras ir >>>>>> pan idiotai). Kurie klausia - O KIEK PAS TAVE MAX RPM? kiekk? 6500? o >>>>>> pas mane ble 9000, reishkia pas mane geriau valit. Pasiskaityk >>>>>> daugiau apie AG, Nm ir rpm - neatrodysi taip kvailai. >>>>>> >>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>> news:gvj19h$8k7$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>> Nesupranti tu ir atrodo tau kad kiti durniai. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Arnas" <arnas@bbd.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:gvj057$6kn$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>> pas tave nera jokios idejos. tu net pats nesupranti ka parashei - >>>>>>>> tas ir liudniausia. Idejes y lengva auto ir ishilgines begius tu >>>>>>>> turesi tuos pachius jobanus 120 kilowatu, kurie valins panashiai >>>>>>>> kaip tie patys 120kw ish pvz 2.8 atmosferiko. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ne, ne taip pat valins, nes jobanas 2.8 atmosferikas turi 250nm o >>>>>>> ne 700nm. Veza tave sukimo momentas o arkliai tik isvestinis >>>>>>> reikalas is sukimo momento. Ir jeigu idesi ilga deze tai 700nm ja >>>>>>> ishsuks be problemu o apsukos tada bus nedaugiau 1500-3000rpm ir to >>>>>>> pilnai uzteks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:gvivmu$5qq$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>> ble tai gal skaitom tarp eiluciu, pati ideja, o ne tai kad butent >>>>>>>>> tiksliai 120kw turi vaiperis....jklmn!!! lol :))) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Arnas" <arnas@bbd.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:gvivcj$596$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>> gausis vaiperis su 120kw ir 700Nm? sorry bet tu debilas. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:gviu2l$301$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>> Tai yra ir sunkvezimiai su 120kw ir 700nm ir tu juos su mopedu >>>>>>>>>>> aplenksi. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Nu ir ka? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Idek i ji ilgus begius ir gausis Viperio istorija >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:gvitpg$2gf$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>> Juzefai, huinia tas torkas zhinok. Yra labai geras to pavyzdys >>>>>>>>>>>> su VW Caddy, 55kW ir berods 215NM. Spek kokiam diapazone tie >>>>>>>>>>>> NM? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvitlt$29g$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint1: mazesnis sukimo momentas i ratus = didesnis greitis >>>>>>>>>>>>> (nereikia taip daznai jungti begiu) ! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hint2: kai Nm skiriasi 2.5karto tai 1.5x reduktorius neatstoja >>>>>>>>>>>>> (ilgesni begiai = didesnis greiti islieka) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 0_o >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvitd2$1p1$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tai, kad i tavo interpretaciju vingius nelabai ir taikau.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvit5h$1ci$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geriau parasyk ka TU rukai nes bandai kazka protingo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pasakyti bet nu nihuja nepataikai. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvit4f$1ac$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blet, rimc. Parashyk ka rukai, ir ash noriu. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvisuf$ur$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>O vazineji visa laika tuo paciu vienu begiu? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zjb! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0_o >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvisnh$gf$2@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nu, tos pachios. Su 1.5x besiskirianchiu perdavimu.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvishs$vsd$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kokios dar transmisijos? tos pacios 5pavaru dezes? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvis9v$vcr$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nu jo, ant tiek nebuki. Bet iki trasmisijos dar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dasiprotet nepakanka..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvirtv$ulf$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeigu ji svertu tiek kiek masina tai ciulptu dar ir >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kaip. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bet tai ant kiek mes nebuki turbut ir ta suprantam? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gviqml$scj$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nu jo. Brytva su savo 100NM ishvis chiulpia.... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gviq5s$rdt$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ji vaziuoja blogiau. Taskas. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dainiushas" <skirdain@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvippi$qmp$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tai gal populiariai paaishkinsi, kodel troike su >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 180NM vazhiuoja neblogiau nei pasatas su 240NM? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "YZF" <yzfas_@_centras.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvipe9$q2s$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kad nereikia kalti antros saibos norint koki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kibira pirmoje juostoje aplenkti, o tik gazo duodi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ir iskarto begejasi. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Siaip niutonai yra visa ko esme ir valinimas ir >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trauka (bendrai paemus), taigi kuo ju daugiau tuo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> geriau >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mindaugas" <seimas@dega.lt> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvip9g$pp9$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Durnam man paaiskinkit, kur tu niutonu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dziaugsmas? Kad penkta saiba is vietos pajudet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gali ar kas? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvhbne$hea$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taip. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Na juk niekas ten nepageres kardinaliai su tokiu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> galingumo padidejimu. Tik va dyzeliai dziugina >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mieste poto, su savo nm. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Feniksas" <audriusTRINTI@TRINTIcablenet.lt> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvhb4v$gop$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is ~19% is 1.67L dyzelio...? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvhan5$ga5$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tai praktiskai nulis. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Feniksas" <audriusTRINTI@TRINTIcablenet.lt> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvhaej$g1a$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nu pvz 318 tds keliasi nuo 90AG iki ~110AG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perprogramuojant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "LabaiNeSpauda" <bimbam@samxam.lt> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvh91k$eg8$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pas dumu naxalishkai nelabai matosi, ta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prasme IMHO, kaip ir turetu buti. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O to nemachiau, bo aplenkt tai jam neishejo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bet kad gerai vazhiuoja tas tds tai tikrai. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Tutis" <tautvydas@gmail.com> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvh7rh$d5u$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ar daug is jo dumu buvo? Nes sitas gerai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vaziuojantis, turi daug dumu duoti. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O taviski galima sureguliuoti, kad dumu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nebutu. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "LabaiNeSpauda" <bimbam@samxam.lt> wrote in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:gvh4uc$a5o$1@trimpas.omnitel.net... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kaliegos, a shyta 2,5 tds normaliai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turbinasi? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shiandien kazkokie 2 chiuvai su tds mane >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuo rumsishkiu persekiojo. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tai man kazkaip skirtumas traukos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nepasirode didelis, todel susinervijau. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tai va galvoju ar mano viedras nevazhiuoja >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ar ten tas tds su vishniom. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >